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Old 01-09-2018, 12:36 AM   #1
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When your in state rival is a contender for the national championship and now your SEC rival (I'm going to assume Georgia wins,but either way) the natty. We're a bit stuck in a hard recruiting area.

We've got to hit the ground running come next season.

What do y'all think how Muschamp and his staff handle this?
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Recruiting - to every high profile athlete UGA and CU are competing with us for:

"You can go to Georgia or Clemson and you can be one of those guys, or you can come to Carolina and you can BEAT those guys. Because we are going to beat those guys every year you're a Gamecock."
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UGA already recruits nationally and will do it more if they win, just like Clemson has been doing. That means we will be able to get more players from the state of Georgia - but won't win as many head to head battles with UGA.

Of course, they already had the #1 class so it can't get too much better....
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the same way they would handle it if we had beaten both of those teams, you recruit like hell and you work. i think the talent will be good enough next season where we can compete with those teams, beating one or both, or at least being more competitive will help. similar to like muschamp said after the bowl that were going to win a championship, you dont have the shiny sec trophy or natty trophy to show recruits, but you tell them look at our progress if you come here you will win championship.
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You don't panic and make stupid course corrections. You stick with the plan and execute. You use great coach-speak. You look irritated all the time. When you win championships, you celebrate for no more than 30 minutes. Done.
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You don't panic and make stupid course corrections. You stick with the plan and execute. You use great coach-speak. You look irritated all the time. When you win championships, you celebrate for no more than 30 minutes. Done.
Exactly this. Next season started LAST night. Well, after you take your post-game piss obviously. Then the season starts.
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Get used to the fact that 5-7, 6-6, 7-5,8-4 are going to be the norm and that's about as good as it's going to get. I've said this before and got bbq'd because of it but it is the stone cold truth- The University of South Carolina will NEVER win a National Championship. NEVER, Not going to happen. We do not recruit well enough to field a title team. Simple as that. We will never be able to put enough high caliber athletes together at the same time to win it all. So, to answer the OP's question- the best way to deal with it is to learn to accept it as fact and be happy with 8-4 seasons and Outback Bowl victories. It could be worse.
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Get used to the fact that 5-7, 6-6, 7-5,8-4 are going to be the norm and that's about as good as it's going to get. I've said this before and got bbq'd because of it but it is the stone cold truth- The University of South Carolina will NEVER win a National Championship. NEVER, Not going to happen. We do not recruit well enough to field a title team. Simple as that. We will never be able to put enough high caliber athletes together at the same time to win it all. So, to answer the OP's question- the best way to deal with it is to learn to accept it as fact and be happy with 8-4 seasons and Outback Bowl victories. It could be worse.
Well we did in Baseball and W. Basketball. And both of those were very elusive for a long time. just saying.
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Well we did in Baseball and W. Basketball. And both of those were very elusive for a long time. just saying.
The task is much easier in the sports you mentioned.
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The task is much easier in the sports you mentioned.
If a small upstate school of cowhumpers can pull it off then so can we. Not saying we will or that it will be easy. But to say never is just crazy. Why even be a fan?

And to answer the OP. You hunker down and recruit, recruit, recruit your ass off.
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If a small upstate school of cowhumpers can pull it off then so can we. Not saying we will or that it will be easy. But to say never is just crazy. Why even be a fan?

And to answer the OP. You hunker down and recruit, recruit, recruit your ass off.
Exactly, although the upstate school appears to have cut some corners. But we can still get there, and do it the right way.

We just went 9-4 (following 3-9 and 6-7 seasons), return a lot of key players (especially on Offense, which is the area that needs the most improvement) and have a strong coaching staff. Why shouldn't we expect an even better record next year? And remember that in the last 7 years, we have had three 11 win/Top Ten seasons.

Every one is shaking their head about going up against the UGA juggernaut. They had 11 returning starters on Defense this year, 7 Seniors and 4 Juniors. Seven are gone and they are all draft eligible - it is possible that their entire starting Defense will turn pro. And that is before you look at their Offense, which loses its heart with Michel and Chubb.

So why can't we beat them this year at home? When I look at next season, I am thinking that is a likely W. We'll see.
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If the playoff ever expands to 8 teams, more possibilities open up. A #5-8 team can go on a late season tear and win it all.
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UGA already recruits nationally and will do it more if they win, just like Clemson has been doing. That means we will be able to get more players from the state of Georgia - but won't win as many head to head battles with UGA.

Of course, they already had the #1 class so it can't get too much better....
Except they really don't recruit nationally in terms of where their commits come from. For the 2016, 2017 and 2018 (as it currently stands) classes, here's where their commits come from:

44: Georgia
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3: North Carolina
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1: South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, California, New York, Washington.

In other words, 64% of UGa commits are from instate, and that's still good enough to give them 3 straight Top 10 recruiting classes. They're always going to win most of those battles so we need to keep doing what Champ is doing - recruit the heck out of Georgia and get as many good players as we can (currently 4 of our top 5 recruits are from Georgia) while not getting pissed off and whiny that we lose most of those battles. Beyond that, keep mining Florida (which is going to be tougher) and convince SC kids to stay here (see suggestions for selling us vs. CU elsewhere on CT). Where I would like to see us improve (geographically) is NC by taking advantage of a down UNC. I know the talent pool ain't great, but we need to beat NCSU and VT for some of those kids like we did with Gwyn.

Beyond that: 1) keep winning, and 2) play a style of football that attracts kids and puts them in the NFL, which is already true for the defense and will hopefully be the case on offense. Other than that, Legal and others have already brought up some great points.
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If the playoff ever expands to 8 teams, more possibilities open up. A #5-8 team can go on a late season tear and win it all.
I do think an 8 team playoff would be pretty awesome. Start it a week earlier.
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Get used to the fact that 5-7, 6-6, 7-5,8-4 are going to be the norm and that's about as good as it's going to get. I've said this before and got bbq'd because of it but it is the stone cold truth- The University of South Carolina will NEVER win a National Championship. NEVER, Not going to happen. We do not recruit well enough to field a title team. Simple as that. We will never be able to put enough high caliber athletes together at the same time to win it all. So, to answer the OP's question- the best way to deal with it is to learn to accept it as fact and be happy with 8-4 seasons and Outback Bowl victories. It could be worse.
i disagree rooster, those 2011-2013 teams were capable. the key is when we break through your ceiling of an 8 win regular season is to capitalize on it rather than get lazy and assume since it happened once it will keep happening without doing the things it takes to keep getting better and sustain a high level program.
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Keep doing what we have been doing under Muschamp.

Recruit. Develop. Catch a few breaks.
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Clemson has been getting great players since Dabo was hired (since Bowden really). Bama won another Natty. What's the big change?
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