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Old 01-11-2018, 06:40 PM   #101
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Sounds like a cluster fk. Why would they say that they wouldn't be scrapping the offense in the presser and emphasizing the benefits of continuity on terminology and the system? Don't say to smoke screen opponents because they wouldn't need to do that, all they would have to say is were going to be making some changes and no one has film on McClendon.

Basically, mark me down as skeptical of the pay sites reporting.
I'm with you on this. The answer is probably somewhere in between. It'll be completely stupid to change something as insignificant as terminology when your entire staff save one addition is the same.

And there's a line between getting input and collection of random suggestions stuck together to make an offense. This is how a team looks lost and doesn't have an offensive identity.

Again, the answer is likely inbetween. Keep some things, overhaul others, change some formations but keep a base package similar.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:04 PM   #102
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I think BMac is due and if we didn't hire him someone else would have. And he's one of the top recruiters in the country. But the truth of the matter is that we don't have to have a top ten or even top 25 offense to win. We just need to have a top 50 or so that is consistent and keep improving our defense.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:09 PM   #103
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It'll be completely stupid to change something as insignificant as terminology when your entire staff save one addition is the same.
And how would you know? Maybe the terminology was stupid to begin with? OC Werner>OC Roper.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:15 PM   #104
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Here's what's so funny about some of our fan:

Coach BMac - we're going to change a few things, but use the same basic offense.
All Knowing CT Poster - a few? A FEW? Ropers scheme was crap, Ropers offense was crap, we have to change it all.


New Tweet about offensive staff - staff has decided to scrap the Roper offense and start from scratch. All current offensive staff will give their input.
All Knowing CT Poster - scrap everything? That's so stupid. Why over complicate things? What change the lingo? We need consistancy!



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Old 01-12-2018, 12:01 AM   #105
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Sounds like a cluster fk. Why would they say that they wouldn't be scrapping the offense in the presser and emphasizing the benefits of continuity on terminology and the system? Don't say to smoke screen opponents because they wouldn't need to do that, all they would have to say is were going to be making some changes and no one has film on McClendon.

Basically, mark me down as skeptical of the pay sites reporting.
Because the base plays are still the same. But the sets we use and how we go about running the plays including the blocking scheme will be different. I think itís smart to get everyone involved. Itís the absolute opposite of when Roper was here.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:09 AM   #106
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Yeah, but those were the same last week, even had the new positions on there, just saying. I'm not saying that when they were like "not much is going to change" I was overjoyed. Just pointing out they are on record saying A (last week) so internet reports of B, could be boooshit.
They have to create the offense before they can install it. Doing this is like hitting a moving target. I think it will constantly be changing and upgraded. Plus Werner needs to figure out Jake’s strengths and weaknesses to design plays that fit him the best. I read where this offense can work with Jake but also work worth Kereon as well.....two totally different styles.
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I think itís smart to get everyone involved.
Agree! Seems ludicrous to hire some of these coaches with solid resumes and then not take advantage of what they bring.

And no where is it written that the OC has to be some kind of offensive genius...especially if he can utilize his asst. coaches to create an effective offense.
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To be fair, I think I read that Champ talked with/interviewed somewhere around 10 guys. Sounds like that qualifies as a real search.

Iím really not sure what a segment of our fan base wants. Thereís one group who blindly approves of everything. One group who evaluates decisions, then weigh in with sensible pros and cons. Then, of course, we have the #NeverMuschampers, who whine and bitch about every conceivable thing.

Who would you have realistically wanted as OC? I think Briles may have been a good pick, but he carries a tremendous amount of baggage, baggage that may increase as that whole case continues. I do believe he was considered, and I understand why he wouldnít be picked.

Beyond him, who else? There were several hot names debated here who fizzled out during bowl games. And keep in mind, when it came down to the last two teams standing at the end of the year, all of the high powered 600 YPG Coordinators were sitting at home.

It came down to two teams with solid defenses, solid running games, and adequate passing. No razzle dazzle, no fireworks, just two true Freshman QBís running a basic attack.

We can do that with a better OL and better recruiting. Weíre getting there, but it takes more than a couple of recruiting classes to dig out of the hole we were in.

Personally, Iím excited and optimistic. Roper is a cerebral guy that has a wealth of knowledge...but he couldnít translate that to the players. I think simply swapping him for BMac and bringing in Werner makes us a more solid team. And my understanding is that our offense will be more of a cooperative effort, with more input from Bentley and Wolford.

We have 8 months to get ready. Iím looking forwards to seeing what changes are implemented.
I see it pretty much the same way too. A couple of things. I think we may see a very different blocking scheme next year as well. For all of our OL issues, I think our blocking scheme played a significant percentage of the problem. The other thing is the "structure" on the offensive side. If you look at the Defensive structure, you have Champ, a great recruiter, meticulous coach and planner who has T-Rob doing yeoman work on game day. We mostly all agree it's working. Why wouldn't a similar structure work on Offense. Give BMac Champs role and Werner T-Robs role. Seems like a fit to me. Yep, there is a learning curve, but, as they say, it ain't rocket science. As far a scheme goes, scrap it all or half, who cares. In any offense, some high percentage of the plays are the same, no matter what the scheme is called or what terminology is used to describe it, at least in todays game. Were not talking about going from a triple option to a spread. Our O issues this year seamed to stem from lousy QB development and an abysmal ability to disguise and call plays. Neither of those should be that difficult to fix. Certainly, experience in calling helps, but it's more of a gift tempered by experience. If it wasnt, everybody would be good at it.
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Certainly, experience in calling helps, but it's more of a gift tempered by experience. If it wasnt, everybody would be good at it.

Going by comments on this board - most people are good at callers no plays.
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One of the things that we do not do well is window dressing. By that, I mean that we have "tells" (a little gambling lingo there) that let the Defense know what we are trying to do on a play.

We need to do a better job of disguising and going against tendencies - keep 'em guessing. Slow the reaction time for the defenders or (better yet) have them anticipating a different play.
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Our O issues this year seamed to stem from lousy QB development and an abysmal ability to disguise and call plays. Neither of those should be that difficult to fix.
And all the RPO stuff may have contributed to QB performance as well as play calling dysfunction.
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They definitely have to have a knack for it.
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One of the things that we do not do well is window dressing. By that, I mean that we have "tells" (a little gambling lingo there) that let the Defense know what we are trying to do on a play.

We need to do a better job of disguising and going against tendencies - keep 'em guessing. Slow the reaction time for the defenders or (better yet) have them anticipating a different play.
Well, it's not hard to figure out when you run up the middle on every first down, run mostly off tackle on every second down and then throw a two yard pass on third and eight. Man it got so sick of that crap.
If they can throw the ball on first down more often, disguise the direction and hole we are going to run and do a bit better job of protecting Jake, then this offense will be highly improved.
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We play UGA in week 2. When it comes to the offense they're going to do their best to treat us all like mushrooms, feed us shit and keep us in the dark. I guarantee you the Spring Game won't be anything more than our most vanilla stuff in the playbook. They'll take any advantage that they can get and UGA being in the dark as long as possible is an advantage.
The only problem with the idea of showing nothing in the spring game is not being able to run the plays in an environment that is similar to a game. If the offense does end up getting a complete overhaul like some have suggested, the guys will need as many reps as possible in the new system.
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Well, it's not hard to figure out when you run up the middle on every first down, run mostly off tackle on every second down and then throw a two yard pass on third and eight. Man it got so sick of that crap.
If they can throw the ball on first down more often, disguise the direction and hole we are going to run and do a bit better job of protecting Jake, then this offense will be highly improved.
You are right about off-tackle runs. Run outside occasionally. And end-arounds. And sweeps.

Plus, Jake needs to run. I loved the option call in the bowl game. If the defenders can't key on the RBs exclusively, then they have a chance, whether they are going inside or out.
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The only problem with the idea of showing nothing in the spring game is not being able to run the plays in an environment that is similar to a game. If the offense does end up getting a complete overhaul like some have suggested, the guys will need as many reps as possible in the new system.
Most of our spring practices are closed so it won't be much of an issue. They'll just keep it more under wraps during the spring game and basically all of our fall practices are closed. I expect them to really start to open it up in game 1 so they're used to running the offense in a game but the big thing will be not showing much to the media or fans leading up to the season opener.
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