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Old 01-08-2018, 10:02 AM   #21
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Default Re: Jamarcus King season MVP?

he had kind of a similar season to gilmore's junior season. gilmore got beat a couple times vs ecu in the 2011 opener, he only gave up one more td in what was a very good season. did king actually give up any td's this year? hes been rock solid in coverage and has tackled well. a lot of ppl just tend to only remember the bad when it comes to corners.
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I thought King had a great season. I know a lot of people were down on him early in the season because a couple of plays were made against him and he had a few ill timed PIs. If you really look at most of those plays, he was in great position and receivers just made great plays over him.
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After leaving last season with a lasting impression of not being able to bring down any of the Clemson receivers, I think King did a great job in turning that impression around. There is no doubt he was motivated during the off season to add some bulk and strength, and had a very strong season this year. Mad props to any Carolina player who sees a weakness in their game and works hard in the offseason to improve on that weakness.
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I only want to add that Wonnum, if he stays healthy, is going to be absolutely amazing here.

Can he run a fake punt?
I agree - he just keeps getting better. Another reason that I want his brother to sign so badly.....be great to have one on both sides of the ball.
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Right, but 9-4 wont cut it for much longer. Muschamp has higher expectations and he needs to produce.







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I honestly believe were it not for his LaTech pick we lose that game and possibly fall apart as a team.
If not necessarily Team MVP, I would definitely call the La Tech pick the most crucial play of the entire season.

After he got that pick, in the midst of my misery, I half jokingly said to my wife, "That's the play we'll look back on at the end of the season and say that's where things turned around for us!" I was trying to make myself feel better during that miserable game. But then we pulled it out miraculously.

I think you are right. If he doesn't make that one play, the season goes to shit. We unlikely finish 8-5. Unlikely we go to a New Year's Day bowl against a named opponent like Michigan.
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I’m old enough to remember when people though Jamarcus King should have been tarred and feathered and thrown off the team. Idiots.

I don’t think he’s the MVP, but I’m so glad there’s a thread suggesting he could/should be. Didn’t deserve the moronic ridicule that he received.
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King saved our season on the Louisiana tech Interception but then jake saved it as well on the last offensive drive
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Iím old enough to remember when people though Jamarcus King should have been tarred and feathered and thrown off the team. Idiots.

I donít think heís the MVP, but Iím so glad thereís a thread suggesting he could/should be. Didnít deserve the moronic ridicule that he received.
Yea I had my doubts about king but he really impressed me this season I didn't find myself yelling at him as much lol
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He has an NFL future for sure.. could end up being a better pro
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This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard yet. Jamarcus King sucked all year long!!!! He was the worst db in the SEC!!!! He NEVER learned to turn and look for the ball. He was always ten yards away when the wr was catching the ball. I'm truly surprised more teams didn't just attack him all game long. Several did, but many teams kept trying to run, when they could have picked on him all game long. He made a few plays here or there, but mostly he just got burned!!!! The only db who was close to being as bad as King was Smith. Again, he made a few vital plays, like in the Tenn game, but he was ALWAYS LATE to the ball. He and King were horrible!!!! King was ten times better last year than he was this season. I really thought he was going to be a great cb this year, but he was used and abused on most passes all season long.
Our secondary is going to be ten times better next season with Montac, Dickerson, Nixon, Williams, Jackson and Fenton. There's a good chance Horn, Gipson and Mukuamu will be in there as well. Mark it down. This secondary next season will be soooooooooooooo much better. I'm so glad Smith and King are GONE!!!!
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This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard yet. Jamarcus King sucked all year long!!!! He was the worst db in the SEC!!!! He NEVER learned to turn and look for the ball. He was always ten yards away when the wr was catching the ball. I'm truly surprised more teams didn't just attack him all game long. Several did, but many teams kept trying to run, when they could have picked on him all game long. He made a few plays here or there, but mostly he just got burned!!!! The only db who was close to being as bad as King was Smith. Again, he made a few vital plays, like in the Tenn game, but he was ALWAYS LATE to the ball. He and King were horrible!!!! King was ten times better last year than he was this season. I really thought he was going to be a great cb this year, but he was used and abused on most passes all season long.
Our secondary is going to be ten times better next season with Montac, Dickerson, Nixon, Williams, Jackson and Fenton. There's a good chance Horn, Gipson and Mukuamu will be in there as well. Mark it down. This secondary next season will be soooooooooooooo much better. I'm so glad Smith and King are GONE!!!!
This might be a bit hyperbolic, and not grounded in reality. Heading into the Clemson game, the only DB for USC that graded (80.1-anything over 80 is very good) out higher on the season was Lammons (Pro Football Focus). King ended the season with 41 tackles, 12 pass breakups, and 2 interceptions. Both picks were extraordinarily consequential to the games and the season. All this while being targeted the most by opposing teams. Were I to agree with you, I would have to think Boom and TRob were idiots, because why else would they allow such an awful player to play more snaps than any other defender this season. The kid practically never left the field. The problem when people judge DBs is they only see the "great" or "terrible" play when the ball is thrown. The fan never pays attention to the 80% of the time they take their guy out of the play. BTW, he was targeted around 90 times and only gave up 2 TDs. I tend to agree with you on DJ Smith to a degree. He busted coverage quite a bit and did not seem to hit as well as his play earlier in his career indicated. I think the stricter targeting rules affected DJ's play and he was unable to adapt. I also agree that the secondary will improve next year, but not because it sucked this year. The only thing that sucked about our secondary this year was lack of depth which kept us from playing the press coverage as often everyone loves to see. The lack of depth had more to do with playing so far off the ball early in games than any one players ability. It was a strategy to shorten games and increase opportunities for the offense to make a mistake without wearing down our thin secondary. We played a lot closer to the LOS late in games.
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This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard yet. Jamarcus King sucked all year long!!!! He was the worst db in the SEC!!!! He NEVER learned to turn and look for the ball. He was always ten yards away when the wr was catching the ball. I'm truly surprised more teams didn't just attack him all game long. Several did, but many teams kept trying to run, when they could have picked on him all game long. He made a few plays here or there, but mostly he just got burned!!!! The only db who was close to being as bad as King was Smith. Again, he made a few vital plays, like in the Tenn game, but he was ALWAYS LATE to the ball. He and King were horrible!!!! King was ten times better last year than he was this season. I really thought he was going to be a great cb this year, but he was used and abused on most passes all season long.
Our secondary is going to be ten times better next season with Montac, Dickerson, Nixon, Williams, Jackson and Fenton. There's a good chance Horn, Gipson and Mukuamu will be in there as well. Mark it down. This secondary next season will be soooooooooooooo much better. I'm so glad Smith and King are GONE!!!!
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Sorry but he doesn't pass the eye test.
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King had a good year but is not MVP or Most Improved - he was pretty solid last year until the Clemson game where he got manhandled, even then he was in position.

I would put Skai, TJ, DJ, Stallworth, Sawyer, Fenton and Kinlaw ahead of King on Defense. Kinlaw was the star of the bowl game to me, causing the key fumble inside the 10 that kept us alive and then recovering another fumble.
I agree with all that, he played better this year but how could he not improve after being very inconsistent last year. It was frustrating for me to watch him because, as the players and coaches say, he didnít have his eyes right. Seemed badly out of position at times and unaware that passes were coming in his direction, and some offenses picked on him due to soft coverage. All the names above had better years and Iíd throw in Lammons.
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no.

improved but not mvp. still missed a lot of coverage assignments, out of position and missed tackles throughout the season.

I am not sure the team had a standout MVP this year...Wonnum was solid.
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Sorry but he doesn't pass the eye test.
not pretty enough or not enough muscles?

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my twitter embedding skills are nonexistent. 6 second clip of king covering a wr during senior bowl practice. the guy who posted it loved his technique and if you feel like scrolling down his main twitter page there are more than a few tweets and retweets from other ppl commenting on that play.
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