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Old 08-12-2017, 12:33 PM   #1
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This is the same guy who thought we'd go 2-10 last year... Don't see an 0-2 start to the season. Maybe he'll be right about Clemson
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While Muschamp appears to have righted the ship quickly post-Spurrier, letís not forget that the Gamecocks lost by two touchdowns to AAC foe USF in the Birmingham Bowl the last time they put on those garnet-and-black uniforms.
Now I'm not saying I was exactly clear of mind but I don't remember the game going quite like that.
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Now I'm not saying I was exactly clear of mind but I don't remember the game going quite like that.
Yeah I remember us taking that game into OT and despite losing putting on a fairly strong performance for a team who won 6 games after going 3-9 the previous season. We also played against a QB who despite playing for USF has been getting some Heisman consideration this preseason. I agree with his assessment other than this. 7-8 wins seems doable.
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Again, the pundits know a lot less about out ream than we do.

For instance - how did we lose to USF by two TDs - when the game went to OT? The writer's fact checker is worse than mine.

I like the UF and Clemson results though.
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I can see 7-5 for sure, but would switch around a few game outcomes. And yeah - last time I checked, it's impossible to lose by two touchdowns in overtime.
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I can see 7-5 for sure, but would switch around a few game outcomes. And yeah - last time I checked, it's impossible to lose by two touchdowns in overtime.
Technically you can but I'm not sure if it has ever happened. First team with the ball has to score a TD and make a 2 point conversion then get a pick 6 to seal the game. But on the prediction, I agree with 7-5 even if I don't agree with all the results. That said I expect an unexpected result or two going both way, winning a game or two I think we should lose and losing a game or two I think we should win.
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Well, scoring a td first and then getting a pick 6 would result in a two td overtime victory. Super unlikely though as player would probably just down the ball to end the game, but not impossible.
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That article got me to thinking. This type of question used to come up on the forum all the time. Would you take his prediction, 7-5 (4-4) with a win over Clemson or trade it for 8-4 (6-2) with wins over UGA and UT but a loss to Clemson?

I've always bought into Spurrier's philosophy of taking care of business in the conference first.
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That article got me to thinking. This type of question used to come up on the forum all the time. Would you take his prediction, 7-5 (4-4) with a win over Clemson or trade it for 8-4 (6-2) with wins over UGA and UT but a loss to Clemson?

I've always bought into Spurrier's philosophy of taking care of business in the conference first.
I think I'd take the 8-4 season, the only question I'd have is does 6-2 get us to ATL? If it does that's a no brainer, and it's still the likely take regardless because long term it would help more.
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That article got me to thinking. This type of question used to come up on the forum all the time. Would you take his prediction, 7-5 (4-4) with a win over Clemson or trade it for 8-4 (6-2) with wins over UGA and UT but a loss to Clemson?

I've always bought into Spurrier's philosophy of taking care of business in the conference first.
First off, I never want to lose to Clemson. However, I agree that I do like the method of taking care of the SEC first. You can't win a championship if you don't play well against your conference. Do that, and the Clemson game should take care of itself. Spurrier showed how that works, and it worked mighty well for 5 years. He had a 6-4 record vs Clemson while at South Carolina.

Also, a loss to Clemson now doesn't look as bad as a loss to Clemson in 2007, and when Spurrier was building the program. Back then, Clemson was an 8 win program - a solid team, but not making too much national noise. Now they are obviously at the top. A loss to a Top 10 team looks better than one who is ranked 20-something and with a record of 7-4.
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That article got me to thinking. This type of question used to come up on the forum all the time. Would you take his prediction, 7-5 (4-4) with a win over Clemson or trade it for 8-4 (6-2) with wins over UGA and UT but a loss to Clemson?

I've always bought into Spurrier's philosophy of taking care of business in the conference first.
I'd still take winning the SEC over beating that team upstate. It's always great to beat them but if we're good enough to win the SEC everything else will fall into place. At that point we'll have pretty much punched our ticket to the CFB. I also think, and this is just my opinion, we can handle competition from that upstate team instead of vice versa. They'll be a good team for some time but we've seen how much a focused Gamecock team is a problem for them. Us being the SEC champs and being in the CFB would be a huge detriment to them. Historically we're used to this adversity, them not so much. Of course this is all speculation at this point. One step at a time.
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First off, I never want to lose to Clemson. However, I agree that I do like the method of taking care of the SEC first. You can't win a championship if you don't play well against your conference. Do that, and the Clemson game should take care of itself. Spurrier showed how that works, and it worked mighty well for 5 years. He had a 6-4 record vs Clemson while at South Carolina.

Also, a loss to Clemson now doesn't look as bad as a loss to Clemson in 2007, and when Spurrier was building the program. Back then, Clemson was an 8 win program - a solid team, but not making too much national noise. Now they are obviously at the top. A loss to a Top 10 team looks better than one who is ranked 20-something and with a record of 7-4.
Correction - Clemson was at the top. So far this year, they have done zilch. And they have done very little since 1981 without Watson as their QB, and he gone. There is nothing that says they won't be a Top 25 team this year instead of Top 10, or an 8 win team as opposed to 11+. In fact, I believe the former is more likely in both cases.

Fortunately, we don't have to choose between 6-2 in the SEC or a win over Clemson. We can do both. For that matter, there is nothing saying that we have to settle for 6 SEC wins.

I was reading about some of the turnarounds in Year Two under recent coaches. Black Magic was Year Two under Morrison. Lou went from 0-11 to 8-4. and, in what the pundits consider Boom's abject failure of a tenure at UF, he went from 7-6 to 11-2 in Year Two.
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Correction - Clemson was at the top. So far this year, they have done zilch. And they have done very little since 1981 without Watson as their QB, and he gone. There is nothing that says they won't be a Top 25 team this year instead of Top 10, or an 8 win team as opposed to 11+. In fact, I believe the former is more likely in both cases.

Fortunately, we don't have to choose between 6-2 in the SEC or a win over Clemson. We can do both. For that matter, there is nothing saying that we have to settle for 6 SEC wins.

I was reading about some of the turnarounds in Year Two under recent coaches. Black Magic was Year Two under Morrison. Lou went from 0-11 to 8-4. and, in what the pundits consider Boom's abject failure of a tenure at UF, he went from 7-6 to 11-2 in Year Two.
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No way in hell should we lose to Mizzou, but I'd accept this overall result. Not bad, especially knocking off Clemson.
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SC defense will get better as the season goes on and the offense will be balanced. Hopefully that means a ball controlling offense.
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No way in hell should we lose to Mizzou, but I'd accept this overall result. Not bad, especially knocking off Clemson.
Young team playing on the road against a good offense. I don't like the matchup out there.
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So.....we will lose to NC State, then arguably the worst team in the SEC at Mizzou, then come home and beat UK who we have lost to 3 years in a row, then go to Kyle Field and beat the aggies, THEN lose at home to a struggling arkansas team and to tennessee who has basically zero returning on offense, but find a way to beat the defending East champion and national champions?

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So.....we will lose to NC State, then arguably the worst team in the SEC at Mizzou, then come home and beat UK who we have lost to 3 years in a row, then go to Kyle Field and beat the aggies, THEN lose at home to a struggling arkansas team and to tennessee who has basically zero returning on offense, but find a way to beat the defending East champion and national champions?

Guy is an idiot. Lets not up his value by visiting his page anymore.
yeah a pretty inconsistent prediction...how the hell do we lose to a mediocre AR @ home, can't beat a sorry MO team on the road, or an over-rated NC St. team in Charlotte, where we'll have the majority of fans...yet we win @ a tough road game in TX A&M?????...RMO III
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