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Old 08-11-2017, 01:49 AM   #41
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Are you talking about current commits or players on the team. I don't remember any commits last cycle that he ran off.
Kyshaun Bryan and Shawn Smith for sure, not sure if Demarri Mathis de-committed on his own accord or was "recommended" to look elsewhere like the other two.
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Kyshaun Bryan and Shawn Smith for sure, not sure if Demarri Mathis de-committed on his own accord or was "recommended" to look elsewhere like the other two.
That's interesting those guys didn't decommit on their own, but had "help" from Muschamp.
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That's interesting those guys didn't decommit on their own, but had "help" from Muschamp.
Since coaches can't comment until the papers are signed, there is no way to know if they actually had committable offers to start with. And our staff has some class and is not going to say anything negative about the recruit. Plus they have teammates, coaches, siblings, etc. No need to burn bridges.

But we have "culled" some of the roster players also. Otherwise, we would not be able to bring in a full class of 25 every year. That is usually done after discussion with the player, and allows the player to transfer to a place where he has more a better chance to contribute.
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Since coaches can't comment until the papers are signed, there is no way to know if they actually had committable offers to start with. And our staff has some class and is not going to say anything negative about the recruit. Plus they have teammates, coaches, siblings, etc. No need to burn bridges.

But we have "culled" some of the roster players also. Otherwise, we would not be able to bring in a full class of 25 every year. That is usually done after discussion with the player, and allows the player to transfer to a place where he has more a better chance to contribute.
They were brought on early in the process and neither had as impressive a senior year as the staff wanted in terms of strides in their game. In Smith's case Terrell came along and the staff ended up being much higher on him. In Bryan's case it was being reported for a month or two before his de-commitment that he wouldn't be a part of the class. The staff isn't ever going to come out after NSD and comment on "encouraging" kids to find a different landing spot but it does happen, and if we feel like there are talented players on the board that want to come here or some players don't make any strides in their game like expected it will happen again this year. It's why I think we may see an OL de-commit and us finish with Gwyn and Wonnum.
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The more I read about Gwyn the more I like him. He is very very strong and is very athletic. He has a so called draw back being only 6ft 2in. But, I really dont see that being a draw back as long as his leg drive and upper body strenght is as good as advertised.
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The more I read about Gwyn the more I like him. He is very very strong and is very athletic. He has a so called draw back being only 6ft 2in. But, I really dont see that being a draw back as long as his leg drive and upper body strenght is as good as advertised.
Well Wolford thinks he compares favorably to AJ Cann, so he could be a very very good OG.
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Well Wolford thinks he compares favorably to AJ Cann, so he could be a very very good OG.
..Sounds good to me. Gwyn is benching 400lbs plus so the upper body strength is there.
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They were brought on early in the process and neither had as impressive a senior year as the staff wanted in terms of strides in their game. In Smith's case Terrell came along and the staff ended up being much higher on him. In Bryan's case it was being reported for a month or two before his de-commitment that he wouldn't be a part of the class. The staff isn't ever going to come out after NSD and comment on "encouraging" kids to find a different landing spot but it does happen, and if we feel like there are talented players on the board that want to come here or some players don't make any strides in their game like expected it will happen again this year. It's why I think we may see an OL de-commit and us finish with Gwyn and Wonnum.
Could happen but it won't be Jesus, Wolford just made some very positive comments about him.
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Could happen but it won't be Jesus, Wolford just made some very positive comments about him.
I didn't say who it would be, just that Muschamp's track record indicates that can and likely will happen if we land both and could happen regardless if someone regresses their senior year.
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I didn't say who it would be, just that Muschamp's track record indicates that can and likely will happen if we land both and could happen regardless if someone regresses their senior year.
I didn't say you did. The reason I mentioned Jesus is because most posters will immediately think he will be the guy to go if we get Gwyn because he's only 2*. However, Wolford loves his ability and athleticism.
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I didn't say you did. The reason I mentioned Jesus is because most posters will immediately think he will be the guy to go if we get Gwyn because he's only 2*. However, Wolford loves his ability and athleticism.
Jesus actually isn't a 2*, that was an issue with 247's rankings that they were having. He's actually rated an 87 by 247 and .8489 for his composite.
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Jesus actually isn't a 2*, that was an issue with 247's rankings that they were having. He's actually rated an 87 by 247 and .8489 for his composite.
Glad to know that he's a 3* on TBS. He's a 2* on Rivals......although, most folks don't look at their rankings as much.
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Glad to know that he's a 3* on TBS. He's a 2* on Rivals......although, most folks don't look at their rankings as much.
Rivals sucks.
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You know stars don't matter. lol. You want to see something amazing, go look at his film. This kid is very athletic and pancake blocks somebody on almost every play. I'm not kidding.
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You know stars don't matter. lol. You want to see something amazing, go look at his film. This kid is very athletic and pancake blocks somebody on almost every play. I'm not kidding.
I couldn't agree more. Go to 1:38 in the first HUDL clip in his CT thread. He knocks the defender down 10 yards down field and then knocks the ref down too. Pretty good stuff. He demolishes the guy I the play right after that, turns, leaps over a guy, and then heads down field to seek and destroy another.
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I was just making a general observation...Rivals sucks.
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I was just making a general observation...Rivals sucks.
We're way past that now. HA. How do you know. They have some good information there too.
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Still supposedly focused on 3, although two CBs for NCSU from Duke Insiders today suggests they (Duke) may be behind. Haven't heard much else about Jovaughn, other than him making the Shrine Bowl.
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Still supposedly focused on 3, although two CBs for NCSU from Duke Insiders today suggests they (Duke) may be behind. Haven't heard much else about Jovaughn, other than him making the Shrine Bowl.
With Wonnum looking more like Carolina, I doubt we use 2 spots on OL since we already have 5.
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Scheduled for an official at NC State on Dec. 8 and, to my knowledge, hasn't been at USC since visiting unofficially Sep 16 for the Kentucky mess. Hope that he gives us one more look. While we've been good about cross-training guys to play OT and OG, I think that Benson is the only current commit who projects at Guard, and looking a year or two out, this is going to be a position of need where it sometimes takes a few years to develop. Would still love to get Gwyn, especially if we lose one (or more) of the current commits.

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