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Old 05-20-2017, 12:44 AM   #1
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Default Vegas sets over/under for Gamecocks wins

5.5

Here are the other programs on the Gamecocks’ schedule that were mentioned.

N.C. State 7.5
Missouri 6.5
Kentucky 6
Texas A&M 7
Arkansas 7
Tennessee 7.5
Georgia 8
Florida 8
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Old 05-20-2017, 12:49 AM   #2
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It was 5 last year. We're movin up in the world!

FSU is at 9.5. Taters can't Ike that.

7-8 wins gets Butch Jones fired. Gonna be a fun year on Rocky Top.
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:08 AM   #3
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Default Re: Vegas sets over/under for Gamecocks wins

I'd take the over in a heartbeat. That over is strictly based on having a QB which elevates the win total 1-2 in my book, but that still merits an over. We have questions in both trenches and if gamblers looks at the stats of returning players they won't be wow'ed so this isn't a surprising total. I think Gamecock fans can clean up on that over for sure though.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:45 AM   #4
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Default Re: Vegas sets over/under for Gamecocks wins

N.C. State 7.5 over
Missouri 6.5 under
Kentucky 6 over
Texas A&M 7 over
Arkansas 7 over
Tennessee 7.5 over
Georgia 8 over
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Old 05-20-2017, 09:14 AM   #5
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I'd take the over right now. I think we can score enough points to win a few games.
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Old 05-20-2017, 09:40 AM   #6
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Old 05-20-2017, 11:06 AM   #7
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Default Re: Vegas sets over/under for Gamecocks wins

I think this is fair. We have a lot of young players who went through a trial by fire last season, so hopefully that experience pays off, but it's tricky to rely on that and we have a much tougher schedule too. I could easily see a scenario in which we're a much better team that winds up with an underwhelming (6-6 or worse) record.
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I'd take the over for us.

If 7.5 is how Tennessee ends up, Butch might be looking for a new job
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Default Re: Vegas sets over/under for Gamecocks wins

Definitely take the over. The only question mark is how good our defense will be. Also (heaven forbid) if Jake gets hurt, Scarneccia is a HUGE question mark at backup.
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Over, all day long. If we're close to where I think we are we should beat La Tech, Wofford, Vandy, KY (yeah I know how that's gone the past few years but it's in WB & I just don't think we lose that game), Missouri (road game so far from a sure thing) & Arkansas (that one is the most doubtful in my mind because Arkansas is the definition of a Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde team and their strengths play directly to our weakness (on paper anyway).

That would give you six. Beating NC State, UF at home, UT on the road, are all doable but right now we'd be dogs to all of those.

A&M will be real tough at College Station as will UGA in Athens. Clemson is clearly better on paper than we are, no doubt about that. With their unknown at QB & the game being in WB I just can't write that game off. But for the sake of argument (and based on last years game) it has to be put in the doubtful column.

So, in my mind, you take the six wins (several are certainly not gimmies & could go the other way). Then your season gets defined by UT, NC State, & UF. Win one of those 3 & you're at 7 & overachieved in the mind of most, other than USC fans. Win 2 or 3 & you have an excellent year as opposed to expectations. Anything more than that (8) would grossly exceed expectations outside the State of SC as well as the majority of USC fans imo.

7 is a reasonable number in my mind. I will be severely disappointed with anything less than that. I would have guessed that Vegas would have put the number at 6. If we can't get there WM will have his hands full recruiting the 2019 class.

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Old 05-20-2017, 12:16 PM   #11
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Default Re: Vegas sets over/under for Gamecocks wins

I think he's better than most of us think he is. Go back and watch the spring game. He had a ton of drops, and still had respectable numbers. One or two bad throws, but he'd be better than what most think. With that said, I still hope Jake stays healthy all year.
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Default Re: Vegas sets over/under for Gamecocks wins

I was thinking more like 6.5 for the over/under, but you have to remember that this is not an expert analysis of our team. It is a betting line that Vegas thinks will draw even money on both sides.

The logic is...we won 6 last year, 3 the year before, Boom was not great at UF, the NC State game might be an L compared to the ECU W last year. So instead of 6 wins like last year, 5 to 6 this year, so 5.5.

As fans, we know that the O improved greatly over the second half, we finished the regular season 4-2, and with both the youngsters getting experience and bunches of reinforcements on the Offensive side, we can be upper half in the NCAA Offense ranks. Which would translate to around 8 wins in the regular season.

I had to laugh at 9 for Clemson though - that is what I have been saying, but both South Carolina fans and Clemson trolls accuse me of ignoring the elite talent and super program. Heck, they had another 6 games that could easily (and maybe should have) gone the other way last year - 9 with their losses and inexperience might be optimistic.

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5.5 seems very fair. Our schedule is tough.
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5.5 seems very fair. Our schedule is tough.
The real question is where are we going to get that .5 win?
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The real question is where are we going to get that .5 win?
I was thinking the exact same thing?
When the f did they start awarding half wins?
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When the f did they start awarding half wins?
If there is a lightning oriented cancellation there can be a push
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I was thinking the exact same thing?
When the f did they start awarding half wins?
I know you can still have ties in the NFL, don't know about college. The logic is that if a game lasts too long, it becomes a safety issue.
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You can't.

That's why it's so crazy!

All these half games?!? What are they dooooooing?
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You can't.

That's why it's so crazy!

All these half games?!? What are they dooooooing?
Maybe they think we will move up to the NFL?

But only Clemson is good enough to become an NFL team (ask a troll, they'll tell you). But that won't happen because the players won't accept a pay cut.
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Maybe they think we will move up to the NFL?

But only Clemson is good enough to become an NFL team (ask a troll, they'll tell you). But that won't happen because the players won't accept a pay cut.
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